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[bigjim]

According to website of Falcon Chambers H de Walden Estates v Samuel Smith (Southern) was a rent review case. Presumably refers to one of the London pubs Sams lease.

Thanks for that! I found the reference on Maitland Chambers website - so might be another case. The de Walden Estate seem to own a huge chunk of Marylebone - so it could either be the Duke of York or Dover Castle I guess.

[yorkie]

According to website of Falcon Chambers H de Walden Estates v Samuel Smith (Southern) was a rent review case. Presumably refers to one of the London pubs Sams lease.

[bigjim]

ok see your point about production costs,its just the another brewery story crops up far to often and by people who ought to know.Could the hump own a southern brewery which is inactive at the moment,and just forms part of his property portfolio.

With the amount of property he owns, the answer has to be 'yes'! I'm assuming the rumours are in addition to the possible Oakwell Barnsley one and the one at Stamford? My guess is that if there is another one, it has to be historic - I can't see him being interested in anything modern.

[mac33]

ok see your point about production costs,its just the another brewery story crops up far to often and by people who ought to know.Could the hump own a southern brewery which is inactive at the moment,and just forms part of his property portfolio.

[bigjim]

I wonder why Samuel Smith (Southern) were in the Greater London County Court in 2007 with a case against Howard de Walden Estates Ltd? 1 EGLR 108

[OnTheDrink]

How true this is i have no idea,but i have been told that the hump has another brewery in the south producing his beers, for the south of england only, as this saves on transport costs.

That would only serve to double (or more) his beer production costs, and it wouldn't save any transport cost other than a relatively small number of artic loads a week.

[OnTheDrink]

I've heard mention of another brewery as well. As a start, maybe those 'in the know' can tell us what is brewed at Melbourne Bros All Saints Brewery Stamford? Is it just the fruit flavoured beers?

Cheers

Yes, just the fruit beers. Mind, I've a suspicion that they're only bottled there so if anyone knows different I'd be pleased to hear from them.

[bigjim]

I've heard mention of another brewery as well. As a start, maybe those 'in the know' can tell us what is brewed at Melbourne Bros All Saints Brewery Stamford? Is it just the fruit flavoured beers?

Cheers

[mac33]

How true this is i have no idea,but i have been told that the hump has another brewery in the south producing his beers, for the south of england only, as this saves on transport costs.

[bigjim]

Could it be a depot? The search engine that gave me this address made mention of scintilla soft drinks.

[OnTheDrink]

Samuel Smith (Southern)
Block 14
Carlyon Road Industrial Estate
Atherstone
Warwickshire
CV9 1LQ

Tel 01827 713346

Pardon me for my ignorance but I had no idea SS had a depot there. The registered office of SS (Southern)'s still at Tadcaster but these premises are registered as food business premises with Warwickshire County Council

[bigjim]

Samuel Smith (Southern)
Block 14
Carlyon Road Industrial Estate
Atherstone
Warwickshire
CV9 1LQ

Tel 01827 713346

[Max]

Samuel Smith (Southern)

Incorporated on 23 December 1977

110 Wapping High Street
London
E1W 2NE (Road Map)
Tel: 020 73534238

Managing Director - Oliver Smith

Another address listed..

Samuel Smith (Southern)
15 Clifton Road, London, W9 1SY
Tel: 020 72862732

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Registered Office info..

Registered Number:
01345661 - Registered at Companies House on 23/12/1977

Address:

THE OLD BREWERY
TADCASTER
NORTH YORKS
LS24 9SB

Company Type:
Private Unlimited with share capital