Question - are there any non white/english staff employed by the brewery?

[Max]

After hearing of a number of incidences regarding staff selection, and employment termination - I would like to make a general enquiry, simply out of curiosity.

It was alleged to me some time ago, that one of the Sam's pubs employed the services of a cook - who I'm told was very capable and popular. However, after a visit from Humphrey Smith, it was alleged that she was instantly dismissed - and it was believed that the decision was racially motivated - she was possibly of African decent. Does anyone know anything about this incident, or similar?

I read at these forums that one new manager was dismissed following a first meeting with Humphrey, and it was alleged that the large size of the new manager was possibly the reason why. When I made further enquiries with the person in question to clarify the allegation - he told me that Humphrey was 'as nice as pie' with them previous to meeting, and Humphrey was more than satisfied with their performance. Apparently, at the moment they met Humphrey, Humphrey's attitude towards them notably changed abruptly!

So back to my original question - does the brewery have a non-racist, sexist policy of employment, that does not discriminate in any way, as required by law? Does the brewery employ individuals (especially in management) of different ethnicities?

[veryworried]

Last night i heard a very disturbing story (i have to confirm it) that a new couple down south have been asked to find alternative employment (by mr smith) as he would prefers his managers to be able to speak better english to his customers. (the couple are chinese).

[andrewtwelvetrees772]

Due to recent events the Chinese are not too popular at the moment.

[BlackDog]

What kind of an argument is that? If this is true not only is it scandalous but it is downright illegal.

[passedit]

Have I missed something,why are the Chinese not well liked at the moment,we have a great Chinese round us the Chicken curry is second to none.

[veryworried]

I must be missing something here andrew12trees but why are the "chinese not to popular at the moment"?
No one has the right to discriminate their managers just because they do not like the way they look or the way they speak. In todays climate do you think that your answer is relevant?

[Bernard]

Twelvetrees you leave me speechless, I think you should join a site dedicated to ornithologists, perhaps you would be more at home there, birdbrain.

[mac33]

The discusion which is going on at the moment about a oriental couple and the hump is interesting,its down right illegal if true,but the interesting thing is andrew12trees reply,he defends the indefensible which to me points to one thing that andrew12trees is a employee of the hump,or perhaps the hump himself. Or of course he is as others suggest a windup merchant who just likes to get other peoples backs up.

[bigjim]

Ignoring the usual unhelpful and wind up comments from ATT, I understand where the original point of this thread is intended to take us, but surely this site has to address the fundamental point that effectively Mr Humphrey Smith, and by extension the private company that he jointly owns, is effectively able to skirt around the law and subvert the cause of natural justice by having access to unlimited funds. Any possible prosecution under discrimination legislation will simply get mired in endless legal argument, funded by a man who has come to learn that in the end any case can be won by the person with the deepest pocket. A very sad but true comment on the British Legal system.

[veryworried]

Bigjim i couldnt have put that better.

[andrewtwelvetrees772]

I have nothing against the Chinese myself and the food is good but the Chinese government is evil.

[BlackDog]

Oh I see Andrew, maybe they should take over the brewery then . . . . I doubt we'd spot any difference!!!

[andrewtwelvetrees772]

A few weeks ago a Britain was executed in China for smuggling a few drugs and his trial lasted for only about 30 minutes, how can that have been a fair trial. The result is that some people will not go in Chinese resteraunts and I have two friends who have stated that, though I don't agree.

[BlackDog]

Two staggering facts:

1) 'No excuse' - In its statement, the Chinese Embassy said Mr Shaikh was convicted of "serious" drug trafficking. "The amount of heroin he brought into China was 4,030g, enough to cause 26,800 deaths, threatening numerous families."  (Source BBC News Website).

2) You have TWO friends, (oh silly me Humphrey & Oliver).

[OnTheDrink]

I think andrewtwelvetrees has awarded himself the position of forum Troll. He's obviously just picking up on comments then arguing the contra just to annoy people. Knob.