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Offline Dannyloo

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Humphry Smith health problems?
« on: Mar 20 - 2011 »
Visited a friend in bootham mental hospital York ,and guess who was sat in day room in his pyjamas ,yes it was the crackpot himself talking to himself,I think he's gone
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Re: Humphry Smith in nut house
« Reply #1 on: Mar 21 - 2011 »
Are you sure? He was out and about in Rochdale just a couple of days ago.

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Re: Humphry Smith in nut house
« Reply #2 on: Mar 21 - 2011 »
Not surprising that he has admitted himself to the mental hospital again. He is working all the hours of the day and obviously can not cope with it. When he visited my local pub he was stood talking to himself, before speaking to the manager.

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Re: Humphry Smith in nut house
« Reply #3 on: Mar 21 - 2011 »
I'm so sure it was the nutter himself ,sat talking to himself,have you heard the latest about the cricketers arms in selby he has put them on final warning coz they can't sell any of his aeroplane plastic pies and frozen crappy veg

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Re: Humphry Smith in nut house
« Reply #4 on: Mar 21 - 2011 »
Well it looks like I'm on my own in thinking words like nutter and nut house as no place on this forum.  I believe there are better words that can be used without resorting to that kind of language.

As always this is just my opinion.

ian.

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Re: Humphry Smith in nut house
« Reply #5 on: Mar 22 - 2011 »
Ian, the use of these terms is causing me consideration, regarding their usage.  They are relatively mild, depending on your point of view.  However, a person with a mental illness may-well be upset or insulted by their use.

My recommendation is to avoid using them, for "politically correct" reasons (I'm sure this will cause some debate).

Thank you,

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Re: Humphry Smith in nut house
« Reply #6 on: Mar 22 - 2011 »
If it was Mr H Smith at Boothham Park (NHS) Mental Health facility, he may have just been visiting one or more staff, who were seeking assistance in coping with challenging circumstances. And if he was indeed appearing to talk to himself, he may have had an earpiece in, using the hands-free on a mobile phone.


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"Porky, juliet three zero niner, commencing final approach, permission to land?"  ;)

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Re: Humphry Smith in nut house
« Reply #7 on: Mar 22 - 2011 »
After working in the building trade for 45 years I can and do swear with the best of them.  But I use this forum because on the main we all respect each other and the different views we all have. 

If we (the forum users) let posts go that we see are in bad taste, then newbies to this forum might see it as the norm and the forum will quickly go down hill.  I suppose its similar to  pub managers that allows swearing in their pub and the ones that don't. I know which one I would use.

ian.
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Re: Humphry Smith health problems?
« Reply #8 on: Mar 22 - 2011 »
Mental illness is a very serious and sad topic. 1 in 4 people will experience it at sometime in their life!!!

If Humps is suffering with any such condition, then that would explain his change in strategy over a number of years, as paranoia is a very prevalent part of many mental illnesses. It would also be understandable that someone with such wealth and responsibility, could find themselves at sometime, affected by the pressure of such circumstances.

Even more likely, is that Humphs / Samuel Smiths Brewery may have on numerous occasions, been taken advantage of. Some people wrongly believe it justifiably to 'rip off' someone who is wealthy. Again one could envisage an increased paranoia over a period of time, which could become progressively worse (without the right support and management), fuelled by the response to initial actions.

Mr Smith would certainly appear to be  a different man, with a different management approach to what he was say 10 years ago. And so a positive point is that with the correct support and condition management, there is no reason why Mr Smith couldn't make a recovery, and then find a means to delegate some of his pressures elsewhere - but of course suitably supervised (even covertly monitored) so as to ensure that Mr Smith / the company, isn't being unduly taken advantage of, or exploited.

I can understand the anguish and even anger of those staff and customers who directly or indirectly suffer from the current brewery regime, and I can also understand people directing that disappointment or even anger towards Mr Smith. But it's possible that the biggest victims to the situation at the moment, is both the Sam's business, and Mr Smith himself.

I hope Mr Smith has got the full support of his family, and if there is still trust there, maybe they could help some more with some of the workload?

If Mr Smith is using the services of the NHS to deal with a mental disorder / disability - whilst I admire him for using the same facilities as us commoners - I would strongly suggest that the company pays for their principal to receive the very best of care, towards a speedy recovery. In other words, go private - not because there's anything wrong with NHS practitioners - it's just that they don't have the facilities to do the job as well, or in a reasonable time, as in the private sector.

I'm speaking from personal experience, as a past sufferer of a mental illness, who whilst getting partial help from the NHS over a period of a few years, finally regained full control after spending a relatively small amount of money in the private sector.

You can't put a price on your health. If any of this is applicable to Humphrey - I hope he gets full support, and gets the best mental health management and recovery that money can buy - and of course makes a speedy recovery.  I'm sure even he would prefer to be the head of a business, where all of his staff have the utmost respect for him, and enjoy working for the business. Happy workers, and happy customers = a more successful business.


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Can we change the title of this thread?
These are sad times :(

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Re: Humphry Smith health problems?
« Reply #9 on: Mar 22 - 2011 »


Admin note: Topic title changed!
Always in support of the Samuel Smiths Brewery - although very concerned about the current company strategy towards its staff and customers, as exercised by the Directors. We believe in promoting common sense, decency, compassion, fairness and compliance with company, employment and English law.

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Re: Humphry Smith health problems?
« Reply #10 on: Mar 22 - 2011 »
Thankyou Minsterman for finding the strength and courage to post.

and

Thanks to Max for stepping in.

ian.

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Re: Humphry Smith health problems?
« Reply #11 on: Mar 22 - 2011 »
Is all of this conjecture from Sams staff and customers,? has Humph's mental ailment been substantiated by any family or head office, as I've said before, I've never met the bloke so I would not judge him by what I read.

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Re: Humphry Smith health problems?
« Reply #12 on: Mar 22 - 2011 »
 I think using these type of words to describe someone who may or may not be suffering a mental illness has to stop,there are people who enjoy using this forum and will find this unaceptable espescially if they are going through something very similar with their loved ones at this present time!

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Re: Humphry Smith health problems?
« Reply #13 on: Mar 22 - 2011 »
minsterman a faboulous post sir, thank you and also to ian and colrac, this issue is vvvvv close to my heart,ive watched my brother tormented now by mental illness for over 15 years,has changed so much he has,i worry daily for his future, i wouldnt wish mental illness on anyone or any family,

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« Reply #14 on: Mar 24 - 2011 »
love the fack that the new manager has a problem with ( gays ) and people talkinging about it while i was out tonight ,i was asked if i was bared reply was i dont know / the landlored manager,, did assolt me and was vervaly agresive towards me name calling etc the fact that he said your not in the pub now its just youy and me out side . did make me think  as he pushed me . waiting for a response that he is homaphobic ???  i dont think that anybody else who used to drink in the lion has  got the balls to say anything because if you do the new management  would and has asked people to leave and not come back.
i dont blame sam smiths. or the area manager H
BUT THE NEW landlord   needs to lok closer to home ?? ie at the end off the bar he thinks straights are all that  ????