The idiot hump is at it again

[Dannyloo]

Just been to my local ,asked for gin and tonic with ice and lemon told by landlady he won't let them buy fruit for drinks has to come out of there pocket if they want fruit,d--k

[OnTheDrink]

Just been to my local ,asked for gin and tonic with ice and lemon told by landlady he won't let them buy fruit for drinks has to come out of there pocket if they want fruit,d--k

That's been going on for a while, ever since Hump did away with those tubs of awful processed lemon slices. Some managers are so embarassed they just buy them themselves.

[passedit]

Under ring a couple of pint,s of bitter and buy lemon,s from that,even with the 5% you should be able to do it.Up to leaving a few year,s ago I still filtered back along with other manager,s,we all kept back the equipment,and bought filter paper,s,again by under ringing a couple of pint,s.
So if you know what you are doing there,s way,s around most thing,s.

[DarkieBoy]

Filtering back?  Isn't that a bit naughty?  Does anyone know how legal it is?

DB.

[OldBreweryDrinker]

With regards the lemons and oranges, one manager buys them and puts a  receipt into the brewery and says stuff Humphrey.Others are more cautious and buy them themselves. I think that filtering back is extremely naughty. I have been in one Sams pub a while ago that used the beer out of the drip tray to start a new pint of Sovereign.Not good.

[DarkieBoy]

It's something that went on until the 1970s but has largely gone.

However, saying that, I used to work in one of the best real ale pubs in the city and it went on.  Cutstomers were not aware, generally, however, some could tell with taste, etc.

I was instructed to filter back myself, and hair, fruit flies and wasps amongst other things were left on the filter paper.  DISGUSTING.

DB.

[sovsuppa]

If filtering good beer that is left in a barrel into the next barrel, in the cellar, then it is quite legal and is done a lot more than some people think.  It is quite illegal and  improper to filter back slops from a drip tray.  For me anyone who stoops that low as to do it should be reported to env. health.

[DarkieBoy]

If filtering good beer that is left in a barrel into the next barrel, in the cellar, then it is quite legal and is done a lot more than some people think.  It is quite illegal and  improper to filter back slops from a drip tray.  For me anyone who stoops that low as to do it should be reported to env. health.

I totally agree.  Until the 1970s it was the mild that had everything filtered back into it...those were the days!  No wonder real ale sales fell and keg grew.

DB.

[OldBreweryDrinker]

I agree with you sovsuppa that the environment authority should be aware of bad practice in Sams pubs. But i do understand that managers are under pressure to give Humphrey the 5% surplus that he demands nowadays.

[passedit]

Filtering back was stopped by Hump around 2000 when he went into a cellar and saw carrot,s in the filter pan.
It was legal to filter back beer pulled through whilst cleaning the line,s and what was left remaining in a "used barrel" that,s why filtering equipment was in every Sam,s cellar.including a racker to enable barrel,s to be tipped up to get as much out as possible,manager,s up to 2000 will of course remember this !
Anyone filtering drip tray and other wastage would have been sacked if found out.and rightly so.

[Milton]

If filtering good beer that is left in a barrel into the next barrel, in the cellar, then it is quite legal and is done a lot more than some people think.  It is quite illegal and  improper to filter back slops from a drip tray.  For me anyone who stoops that low as to do it should be reported to env. health.

I totally agree.  Until the 1970s it was the mild that had everything filtered back into it...those were the days!  No wonder real ale sales fell and keg grew.

DB.

Oh yes...the legendary Mild barrel...filter all the slops back into it, mix in a couple of bottles of tonic water to improve the flavour, covers up all manner of sins !

[Dannyloo]

Every time I go into a sams pub I I have to wait ages for a drink when you ask the staff why it's always the same answer that the crank Humphry  won't give them staff hours so I told them todo the same as my mate and buy in your own goods and under ring the till the 5 percent he robs of everybody should cover a few extra hours and a litre of the best selling spirit is only a tenner from aldi

[centurion]

Every time I go into a Sam's pub I I have to wait ages for a drink when you ask the staff why it's always the same answer that the crank Humphrey  won't give them staff hours so I told them to do the same as my mate and buy in your own goods and under ring the till the 5 percent he robs of everybody should cover a few extra hours and a litre of the best selling spirit is only a tenner from aldi

To quote 'John', YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS!!!!

[OldBreweryDrinker]

Waiting in Sams pubs has now unfortunately become the norm, due to lack of staff hours and managers been overstretched. I wish he would jsut allocate a decent number of hours to the managers, then customers would not walk out, as quite a few have done recently. Also noticed a large amount of new customers coming into my local. Has the secret been unlcoked.

[alepaul]

Theres a clear choice for all people. They can wait a short while for a darned good pint at a decent price. Alternatively they can be served immediately and buy overpriced mass produced beer. Its a free world