Brigadier

[frizzease]

As a regular in the brigadier i have noticed a few changes in the last month it seems to me that it is one rule for one and one rule for another, i really enjoyed going in there till just lately now that the landlord and his family seem to be alienating the regular punter, for instants he has changed the times for wen youngsters have to be off the premises 3 times in 3 weeks, from 9 o clock to 8 to 7 o clock, but this rule does NOT apply to his 12 year old daughter who is still running around the place at 11 at night in her pyjama's, also his very young niece and friends kids are aloud in till late. We have also noticed that he has got some very fowl mouthed friends who are aloud to roam the pub shouting and carrying on but he does nothing about it probably because he is to drunk to noticed. I Feel if things don't change i will regrettably be finding a new local..

[dogsboddy]

HERE IT GOES AGAIN ANOTHER MANAGER GETTING DRAGED TO SHREDS AND NO CHANCE OF DEFENDING HIMSELF

[Max]

Just a couple of points...

1) Once again, please can all members note, that the using of ALL UPPER CASE is considered as shouting - and should not be used in regular forum posts - this of course being typical forum / Internet etiquette

2) So long as our AUP is not breached - these forums allow people to post their own views, observations and opinions (in a democratic way), and likewise, readers should respect that postings may not be fact - and of course anyone can reply, or defend themselves through the same forums.

[ian]

HERE IT GOES AGAIN ANOTHER MANAGER GETTING DRAGED TO SHREDS AND NO CHANCE OF DEFENDING HIMSELF

Yes it is a case of here we go again, but apart from closing down this website what can Max do about it? Some allegations made by new members have been found to be true, but most are found to be highly exaggerated and are posted by people will a personal issue with the managers.

I wonder if the forum has any other members who use's the Brigadier Gerard and give us there take on the pub?


On a related issue, I've been talking to a manager who was dragged through the mud a bit back by a new member, They don't post on here but dose lookin now and again. They told me that they was not bothered about what the person posted on here, as it was not true and they gave me their version of what happened on the night in question. Must admit I do believe them 100% and just waiting to see if the poster posts again on here.

To end with, frizzease please don't think that I don't believe you, it's just that past history of posters using their first post to complain about a particular manager and/or pub are based on maybe not the all truth and some are just dam right lies.

ian.   

Edited by me, spelling again, sorry.   I have the same type of spell check / dictionary has Whizz but mine as just be doing the pots.   

[poprobson]

In reply to dogsboddy, the original post is 100% true. If dogsboddy feels that the comments are untrue, I suggest he visits the pub at various times after about 3 in the afternoon. The manager is usually blitzed by 9, his kid does run around in her pyjamas up to 11 at night, and no-one, not the manager nor the bar staff, ask any of the foul mouth cretins in the pub to put a sock in it. I've moaned about the foul language in the place before. It is a total disgrace. When the manager is one of those using it, how on earth can he stop others?
I was in just over a week ago, after 10pm, hoping to miss the usual people who drag the pub into the gutter. A couple were having a domestic, the woman told him to eff off (very loudly) and an old gent at the bar admonished her in a friendly manner. She basically told him she was annoyed. Does that make it right? She then, when the girl behaind the bar disappeared into the other side, threw a punch at him! The manager must have seen it, but probably did nothing because he would have had to stagger across the pub. Two middle guys came in, and swore very loudly, constantly, til closing time. It's about time Humph paid a visit and saw how this pub is going down the pan, then maybe he will do something about it.

[poprobson]

Further, if dogsboddy is so cheesed off about the manager being torn to shreds, he can tell the manager what is being posted, and maybe the manager can answer the criticisms on here.

[ian]

Further, if dogsboddy is so cheesed off about the manager being torn to shreds, he can tell the manager what is being posted, and maybe the manager can answer the criticisms on here.

No manager can come on here to defend themself's and keep their jobs.   So all these kind of posts are nearly always one sided.

ian.

[poprobson]

Didn't really think of that. However, if things continue as they are, he may as well defend himself here, since he job is surely going to be ending soon anyway!

[ian]

poprobson

Re swearing in pubs, I've stated on here many times that I'm against swearing in pubs or any public place. Being a customer it easy for me to say that the managers should stop all swearing in their pubs. Bad swearing is becoming the norm now.  When you get footballers, so called film stars and TV personalities doing it in public, the more easily impressionable will follow suit whatever their intelligence is.

What I can't and won't stand is people showing off and swearing very loudly just for the sake of it. I just drink up and move on. If this is your local (by past posts you seem to drink in a few Sam's pubs in York and have issue's with most) maybe try another one. I know it might not be as easy as that, but that's better then getting yourself worked up every time you go in.

ian.

[poprobson]

Hi Ian,

As much as I agree with you (and I have started to go into another pub), I do try and avoid the Brigadier during what I feel are the worst times of the day (usually between 2 & 9.30, and all day Saturday and Sunday).

However, why should I stop going in the Brigadier?

 It is the closest pub to where I live. If the manager would run it properly (like other managers have in the past), there wouldn't be a problem. If the manager would get rid of the worst offenders, several of the others would stay away, feeling that they weren't welcome. This would allow all those people who have stopped going in because of the problems to return, and a happy pub would yet again emerge, like it was in the past.

Here's hoping, but I doubt it.

[ian]

Hi Ian,



However, why should I stop going in the Brigadier?

Can't argue with that.  And the trouble is if the more normal punter stays out than the place can only go down hill.  Has I've said on here before, if the manager swears, then that sets the standard for everybody else.

ian.

[DarkieBoy]

Providing the right atmostphere in a pub and attracting the right customer can be an instant put-off for the undesirable element of society.

DB.

[ciderman]

i feel sorry for all managers/manageress they have to return the so called 5% surplus and improve sales to keep there job. And how many Good managers and bad managers have been sacked for not being able to reach the 5% and improve sales. They are under so much pressure to reach the criterea is there any wonder they let anyone in to try and improve there take and have a drink for themselves, granted i don't agree with the language and other things previous posts have said have been going on if they are correct. But at the end there is more sams public houses in york you could go to. chill out.

[OldBreweryDrinker]

Like you ciderman i feel sorry for so many managers that are struggling to get anywhere near the 5% surplus. Many carn't even get 3% or more, so it seems very unfair. As stated before many managers are unable to defend themselves as they carn't join the forum and comment on their own pubs. Because then Humphrey would know and probably sack them.

[BlackDog]

Has anyone had an official take on the weights and measures stance on this? Could the contract clause be illegal? Just a thought.