Message to Mr Humphrey Smith - from Admin

[centurion]

Your brews are good - but by no means the best. You are no longer competitive in other areas. If I'm at a venue, where your brew is guesting, I will pay more for a better pint, such as a Boddingtons. Not all people have the same tastes, like/dislikes - which is why you must offer more variety, and stop kidding yourself that your business will survive simply on your low-cost products

BODDINGTONS? YOU'RE HAVING A LAUGH!!! Think about what happened to that brewer and its workers, sold down the river by Whitbread, to lying greedy foreigners, then flattened. Just a brand name now. Belgian owned, Welsh brewed nitro keg rubbish,sorry to all the taffys, it's not your fault.Remember when you could taste the honey in the brew? now who is going to brew the cask? if you can find it,the Danes or the Dutch?. Not many pubs these days declare outside, what they sell inside!.Anyway 6-0!!!

[Max]

A rather cutting - if not somewhat heated post!  I don't think it's fair, to judge a person by his pallet.

[Tink]

i totally agree with you admin... i personally dont like beer or lager i am a spirit drinker... and the cost has gone up dramatically in Brandy... it is 78p dearer in our establishment than it is in the next village. but i like sams vodka to any other...

everyone has an individual taste which goes from hair colour to food.. i think it is unfair to diss someones opinion, after all we all have them

my husband does love a pint of john smiths smooth.

[centurion]

A rather cutting - if not somewhat heated post!  I don't think it's fair, to judge a person by his pallet.

Not many judges on this site then?

Question; what's the quickest way to put a Yorkshiremans back up?

Answer;   tell him he's wrong.

FOB? He must have choked when HWS told him he was ONLY having company catering, FOB was the king of franchise, with his ?10 cookers. He hated company catering for the bean counter he his. You want to handle him, ask for everything in writing and keep a diary, he gets off on you fighting him, give him herbel brew, with fibrogel instead of sugar.

[stig]

You may find FOB is not too bothered as he apparently has shares in SB

[johhnyboy1]

WELL I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU MY LANDLADY AND LORD A JUS BEEN SACKED FROM THERE PUB BECAUSE FOB SAID ITS YOURS IF YOU SELL MORE  FOOD .LOL SELL PING FOOD I WOULD BE SUPRISED IF HUMFREY KNOWS WHAT A MICROWAVE IS IT GOES PING PING

[moggy]

please please please get your facts correct there are no shares in sam smiths it is a private company held in trust and cannot be sold. i was hoping this website would be able to help managers by giving facts that we can use and allowing us to securely communicate with each other, but the silly element is creeping in and using the site to gossip and destroy managers please mr admin dont let that happen

[yorkie]

It is not necessarily the case that there are no shares in Sams. It is a private unlimited company, which may or may not have share capital. Such companies are allowed to disclose far less information to the public which is no doubt the reason Sams is set up that way.  However there is no limit on the 'members' liability & Humphrey is presumably a 'member' so if everything goes totally pear shaped he could lose everything he has!
 As for the business being held in Trust, that does not mean it cannot be sold, and the Trustees have a legal duty of care to the beneficiaries. In any case there is normally a time limit on the lifespan of a Trust so the situation does not last forever. If only we could see a copy of the Trust Deed it might explain HS's actions!

[Max]

please please please get your facts correct there are no shares in sam smiths it is a private company held in trust and cannot be sold. i was hoping this website would be able to help managers by giving facts that we can use and allowing us to securely communicate with each other, but the silly element is creeping in and using the site to gossip and destroy managers please mr admin dont let that happen

Actually - SAMUEL SMITH OLD BREWERY (TADCASTER) - is a 'Private Unlimited Company' - this type of company may or may not have a share capital and there is no limit to the members' liability. Because there is no limitation on members? liability, far less of the company?s affairs have to be disclosed publicly than is the case with the other types of company.

Name & Registered Office:
SAMUEL SMITH OLD BREWERY (TADCASTER)
THE OLD BREWERY,
TADCASTER,
NORTH YORKSHIRE
LS24 9SB

Company No. 00188027

Date of Incorporation: 22/02/1923

Company Type: Private Unlimited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
1596 - Manufacture of beer
5134 - Wholesale alcoholic & other drinks
5225 - Retail alcoholic & other beverages

Accounting Reference Date: 30/04
Last Accounts Made Up To: 02/01/1982  (ACCOUNTS TYPE NOT AVAILABLE)
Next Accounts Due:
Last Return Made Up To: 16/11/2007
Next Return Due: 14/12/2008

Last Members List: 16/11/2007

Companies House Document History..

363a     06/12/2006      RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/06; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
RES01    17/02/2006    ALTERATION TO MEMORANDUM AND ARTICLES
      
363a    06/12/2005    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/05; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
363s    03/12/2004    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/04; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
363s    03/12/2003    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/03; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
363s    11/12/2002    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/02; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
363s    06/12/2001    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/01; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
363s    30/11/2000    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/00; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
363s    14/12/1999    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/99; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
363s    09/12/1998    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/98; NO CHANGE OF MEMBERS
      
288b    17/02/1998    DIRECTOR RESIGNED
      
363s    07/01/1998    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/97; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
288a    22/06/1997    NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED
      
288b    22/06/1997    SECRETARY RESIGNED;DIRECTOR RESIGNED
      
363s    26/11/1996    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/96; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
288    14/02/1996    DIRECTOR RESIGNED
      
363s    29/11/1995    RETURN MADE UP TO 16/11/95; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
288    31/08/1995    DIRECTOR RESIGNED
      
288    17/12/1990    DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED
      
122    17/05/1989    � IC 2200000/1886512
� SR 313488@1=313488
      
SRES09    17/05/1989    313488 �1 (�2.70 EA) 28/04/89
      
288    11/04/1989    NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
      
288    17/02/1989    NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
      
363    02/12/1988    RETURN MADE UP TO 07/10/88; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
      
SRES01    22/08/1985    ALTER MEM AND ARTS
      
SRES01    22/06/1982    ALTER MEM AND ARTS
      
SRES01    09/02/1982    ALTER MEM AND ARTS
      
NEWINC    22/02/1923    INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS
CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION
STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE
DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE
MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION

A PDF copy of each of the above documents is available from Companies House, for the sum of ?1 each - from here

I have purchased some of the above documents today - and will post on this website this afternoon.