why do people use this site to bitch about each other i have been reading the reports from the griffin growler and he is right, there are pubs that do not have any music or tv and people do enjoy being able to hold a conversation, i dont blame sams for not being held to ransom by sky tv, and in case any one is interested over ten years ago they were demanding ?220 a month for sky in pubs so god knows what it is now. griffin growler is right these pubs are busy, and the managers are overwhelmed by the amount of customers and they do need more staff, but there is no chance of that with the current regime,these managers need to get in a union and get there employment rights sorted, i cant believe this is happening in this day and age.i bet humphrey and fob get there weekends of from what i have read on this site these managers are working all hours and cant even get a day off. as for the people who want sky tv and entertainment go down the road and pay upwards of ?2 a pint, dont you realise it is you the punter who is paying for this.