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Dear Mr H Smith,

After speaking to a group of solicitors, only 1 hour ago - I have been told to contact you with this message..

Further to your Constructive Dismissal of John and Jo Sharpe from the White Horse Inn, Beverley (Tues 17th, February), it has been advised that your actions should be reported to the senior Ministers of the Dept. of Work and Pensions - which will no doubt result in an extensive investigation, which will see you personally prosecuted for many breaches, and have to pay some large sums in compensation.

And best of all - this will attract an immense amount of publicity to yourself and the brewery!

As I'm relatively busy today, I will draft my communication to the Ministers of DWP over the weekend. So may I respectfully suggest, that you could save me the time and effort (and yourself the ensuing result) by simply reinstating John and Jo at the White Horse Inn - on a fair wage - and with a realistic staff-hour allocation.

You need to do this immediately - then everyone will be happy - and you will continue to get a high quality management, good returns, and loyal customers.

Incidentally - I understand there's a high profile protest being arranged by many of the regulars - with banners and placards - and it is due to be highly publicized! Already it would seem that the BBC and ITV will be sending film crews/reporters to put it on the national news.

Now whilst this has nothing to do with me - at least I've been decent enough to tip you off - so that you can avoid such an occurrence, by simply reinstating John and Jo.

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« Reply #1 on: Feb 19 - 2009 »
A very interesting development - with lots of publicity too!  :D

If it's on the box, we'll have to put copies on YouTube, and we'll have copies on this website too. The next few days should prove quite interesting. Make sure you keep us updated 'regular'.

Meanwhile..

May I suggest that if someone at Taddy Towers is reading this, could they please print-off a copy for Humphs - just to give the lad a sporting chance to influence his own destiny. I thank you.
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 19 - 2009 »
Incidentally - I understand there's a high profile protest being arranged by many of the regulars - with banners and placards - and it is due to be highly publicized! Already it would seem that the BBC and ITV will be sending film crews/reporters to put it on the national news.

 A public protest? Count me in!!! I will contact some associates. Let us know when regular - and is this to take place at Nellies or Tadcaster?

Anyway, I would just like to add that if anyone believes they are being paid below the minimum wage (maybe because you cannot avoid working extra hours) then there is a hot-line number you can ring to report the crime to HM Revenue & Customs:-

0845 600 0678 - 9.00 am to 5.00 pm, Monday to Friday

You can also report online here: https://online.hmrc.gov.uk/shortforms/form/NMW_Enquiry?dept-name=NMW&sub-dept-name=Enquiry&location=25&origin=http://www.hmrc.gov.uk

More information here: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/nmw/index.htm

These are sad times :(

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« Reply #3 on: Feb 19 - 2009 »
Join up to twitter and place links about the evil tyrants antics on there to reach an even wider audience peeps......
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 19 - 2009 »


I don't know how I've missed this one. But obviously the same Modus Operandi, nearly a year ago..



Brewery calls time on jobs in shake-up

Published Date: 17 April 2008
By Paul Goodwin


ONE of Yorkshire's oldest breweries has called time on several pub jobs - sparking protests.
Brewers Samuel Smith have wielded the axe among landlords and bar staff at the Corporation Brewery Taps on Cleveland Street, the Holly Bush in Edenthorpe and the Lumley Arms in Maltby - where police attended a protest on Tuesday in response to the on-the-spot sackings.

Jobs at the Ridgewood Hotel pub in Edenthorpe and the Gamecock Hotel in Harworth are believed to be next in the firing line.

The redundancies, which follow a similar wave of job losses in Rotherham and Sheffield, are the result of landlords failing to agree to a huge reduction in their weekly working hours.

Approximately 14 jobs have been lost at the three pubs affected so far.

Carole Emmerson, who has managed the Ridgewood Hotel with her husband for the last seven years, told the Free Press this week she expected them to be the next pub to learn their fate - even though both her and her husband Jim are currently off work sick.

She did, however, promise not to go without a fight by threatening a sit-in protest.

"We've all put a grievance in about our hours being cut but it has not even been acknowledged and we've had no meetings," she said.

"We've been cut from 126 hours to 45 hours and we cannot manage the pub in that time. People haven't got homes to go to - we are being treated really badly.

"This is a fantastic pub with fantastic people," she added. "We feel most for our colleagues who've been with the company for 20 to 30 years."

Corporation Brewery Taps regular Des Heywood, of Balby, contacted the Free Press in shock at this week's developments.

"The regulars really don't like what's happening to them - we've known the staff for years," said the 69-year-old.

"I don't know why Samuel Smith doesn't put a few pence on the cost of a pint. It's cheap as it is and could save these people from being made homeless."

A spokesperson for South Yorkshire Police confirmed that two response officers attended a small demonstration at the Lumley Arms pub in Maltby on Tuesday afternoon.

Samuel Smith's is an independent brewery based in Tadcaster where operations continue at the oldest brewery in Yorkshire, established in 1758.

Samuel Smith Brewery was contacted by the Free Press but refused to comment.

Source: Doncaster Free Press
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 20 - 2009 »
has it not occured to anyone that the reason that humph is making all these stupid decisions, is because his brain is pickled in OBB, he was in a pub the other night absolutley pissed then he left in his little motor car, to either go and terrorize someone else , or home to his family. is this man so powerful that he is above any laws, employment or criminal, how can he get away with what he is doing, i hope the demonstration goes ahead at nellies, and i hope someone gives either the reporters or the police his car reg, so he can be stopped before he kills someone.

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Re: Re; The White Horse Inn (Beverley) aka 'Nellies'
« Reply #6 on: Feb 20 - 2009 »
So why didn't you report him to the police for drink driving?

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« Reply #7 on: Feb 20 - 2009 »
So why didn't you report him to the police for drink driving?

we didnt know who he was by the time we were told he had gone and i dont know what his reg is

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« Reply #8 on: Feb 20 - 2009 »
I know its an dark blue rover R reg
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 20 - 2009 »
Dear Mr H Smith,

After speaking to a group of solicitors, only 1 hour ago - I have been told to contact you with this message..

Further to your Constructive Dismissal of John and Jo Sharpe from the White Horse Inn, Beverley (Tues 17th, February), it has been advised that your actions should be reported to the senior Ministers of the Dept. of Work and Pensions - which will no doubt result in an extensive investigation, which will see you personally prosecuted for many breaches, and have to pay some large sums in compensation.

And best of all - this will attract an immense amount of publicity to yourself and the brewery!

As I'm relatively busy today, I will draft my communication to the Ministers of DWP over the weekend. So may I respectfully suggest, that you could save me the time and effort (and yourself the ensuing result) by simply reinstating John and Jo at the White Horse Inn - on a fair wage - and with a realistic staff-hour allocation.

You need to do this immediately - then everyone will be happy - and you will continue to get a high quality management, good returns, and loyal customers.

Incidentally - I understand there's a high profile protest being arranged by many of the regulars - with banners and placards - and it is due to be highly publicized! Already it would seem that the BBC and ITV will be sending film crews/reporters to put it on the national news.

Now whilst this has nothing to do with me - at least I've been decent enough to tip you off - so that you can avoid such an occurrence, by simply reinstating John and Jo.

Regards,


A Regular

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it amazes me when you read in the news about all the Foreign workers who are being given preference over English workers, and in our own backyard we have Mr Smith sacking workers on cooped up charges, the real reason behind all this , is of course the salaries, why pay managers (who have been with the brewery for years) a decent salary when he can get monkeys for peanuts, and of course save on long service awards, pensions and of course its coming up to bonus time, so his strategy is get rid. he told one couple they could have a pub, terms and conditions, to work 10 hrs  6 days a week for the princeley sum of ?65 not each, between them, then he cut the staff hours and told them to sack the chef, needless to say they walked, why are none of the newspapers picking this up, does humph own them as well

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Re: Re; The White Horse Inn (Beverley) aka 'Nellies'
« Reply #10 on: Feb 21 - 2009 »


Hello

If anyone is free this afternoon - we are holding a peaceful protest at Nellies at 5.00 this afternoon.  Calender News are hoping to bring a film crew and possibly Look North.  Please  attend if at possible.  Cheers.

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« Reply #11 on: Feb 21 - 2009 »
Good luck hope all goes well for you and you get the outcome you want
At the very least it should get Humphrey twitching a bit more
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 21 - 2009 »
I was told that the protest this evening was a relatively low-key affair, but I believe there may be more to follow. Meanwhile, assuming that the new management couple have been allocated the same number of unworkable staff hours, it will be interesting to see how things develop. I certainly don't envy them one bit!

Let us know how things progress.



I might add, that the video was found via the pubs own website, which is owned by one of the dedicated regulars: Nellies.co.uk
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 23 - 2009 »
When Humphrey Smith came on his crusade to look for excuses to get rid of the previous managers, John and Jo - one of his complaints was that the beer didn't taste too good - although no one else seemed to think so!

Anyway, I've just found out that they've discovered that the beer-lines have not been changed for 20 years or so - when they should in fact be changed at least every 10 years.

So who's fault was that? If the beer did taste different to what you would expect (and not noticeably to the regulars) then it's because your company is that disorganized, that you overlooked an important job, which could have been affecting peoples health for years. I wonder how many other dereliction of duty, Humphrey Smith as a co Director is guilty of.

It seems the real perpetrator of the problems associated with Sam's pubs - isn't the pubs managers - it's you Humphs, as the brewery Director! I've said before, you need to have someone more experienced running the pubs operation - someone who's also fair and law-abiding (unlike yourself). And then done properly, you will see a healthy (excuse the pun) improvement in trade.

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« Reply #14 on: Mar 2 - 2009 »
Well Humphrey Smith - you've done it again!! You've proved that when it comes to managing your pubs, you are completely inexperienced, and should leave it to someone else.

And to what cost your inexperience? Another pub going down the pan - the one I've supported for 30 years!

After Smith got rid of the very popular, and highly experience and successful couple John and Jo - he replaced them with what I believe to be a well meaning, but much less experienced couple - which I'm sure Smith will see reflected in their sales figures.

The new couple would appear to be trying to work with the new staff hours cut backs - and I feel so sorry for them because the pressure is beginning to show.

So after about a couple of weeks of John and Jo leaving, what's happened?

  • Rubbish all over the courtyard
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  • Gents toilets flooded and smelling
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  • A forest of dirty glasses on every table throughout the pub
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  • Lots of under-aged youths sneaking into other rooms, and getting others to buy them alcohol
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  • The largest room (upstairs) being closed most of the week
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  • Waiting time to get served on a weekend, now longer than it takes to drink it.
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  • Miserable / angry people everywhere, frustrated at waiting silly times for service
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  • Fresh glasses on the shelves, all with a white residue coating
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  • Empty (aluminum) barrels left in the public car park all week. (We've got a book going to see how long before they start getting stolen).
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  • Many of the 'bad crowd', undesirables, returning
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  • Very poor rapport between managers and customers - leading to reduced co-operation.
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  • Lots of shouting, singing, and general yob rowdiness

..and it's still early days yet!

I've read that Smith believes as his prices are low, people will be prepared to wait longer. Well I don't know what drugs he's on - but in the real world, that does not happen. I and others have witnessed hundreds over the weekend, walking out after waiting for say 10 minutes. And that's exactly what I'm now doing too. Of course our neighboring pubs are benefiting big time.

Well done Smith - you've cocked it up yet again!!  >:(  You obviously don't want our loyal custom anymore.  >:(
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These are sad times :(