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I have it on what I believe to be good authority that Young Sam will be replaced by an ex-Fullers Area Manager as of next Monday. Various rumours as to the meaning / reason for this, if this replacement proves to be true I will relay what I have heard.

Hmmm! Fullers is London so maybe?

In the meantime we can try guess so may I start: H is retiring? however, I doubt it is that simple......

The rumour mill goes round and round again about H retiring or stepping back from the helm.Only time will tell

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The new design for this pub looks very similar to the one at Boston Spa,which has also had a recent refurbishment. Is this gastro style pub the new SS design model.

Will visit when in the area.

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General Discussion / Re: Bad Language
« on: Today at 05:23 PM »
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/821585/Pub-landlord-closes-Samuel-Smith-pub-drinkers-bad-language

Here is the link for the article. This swearing policy is not going well in so many SS pubs around the country at the moment.Some cases it has made the problem worse than it was before the notices were put up.

I know Humphrey was in one SS pub the other week and he noticed that the swearing policy notice was not appended to the wall. There was a relief manager there at the time,so see if Humphrey returns when the managers are back.

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I was given a list from January 2000 of sam smiths managed houses,it lists all the area managers and their pubs.Managers were;
Mr F O'brien
Mrs L Burley
Mr C.E Brown
Mr M Thompson
Mr I Daffern
Mr C Elgenia
Mrs H Carline
Mr D Moore
Mr I Creighton
Mr S McRae
Mr M Maher

What a shame they are not still about,(with the possible exception of FOB!).The list also has the pub number,presumably for accounts etc,lowest is Angel and white horse,(301),and highest Golden Lion,Loftus,(696).The list also has the name of the pub manager,not many still there I suspect!.

Interesting stuff,yes I still see Fran O'Brien around in a few SS pubs every now and again.Not liked by the managers,asking far to many questions. Laura Burley (Leeds area) went off with stress and now works for another pub company. Ian Daffern is still at the brewery but a stock taker,think he did the Manchester area. Mick Thompson I think did the Southern pubs with Hester,can't remember the surname.

Yes bet there are no managers left in pubs on the list.Only long term managers I know are 3 in the Leeds area.

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Over the last ten eyars or so,many many good managers have left SSOB whether by handing in their notice or been forced out or fired. Sad to see, and so many new managers without the skills or talent to run the many pubs that are now up for grabs.

Only two of my local SS pubs have managers in,one has worked for SS for quite a few years,the others are about at the year point. The other two pubs have a relief manager running both. That I believe about sums up SSOB at the moment.  :S* :S* :S*

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A Customers Viewpoint / Re: Carol Brown retires
« on: May 11 - 2017 »
Just read today that Carol is retiring from the Colpitts back home in Durham. Although I'm exiled now and haven't been back for a few years, the Colpitts is a cracking pub and always a great pint.

http://www.durhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/15238657.End_of_era_as_landlady_Carol_Brown_retires_after_44_years_at_The_Colpitts/

Glad some of the old managers are retiring rather than getting fed up and leave or end up been fired.  C==CC C==CC

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During a recent visit to the city of culture 2017 we visited the Olde Blue Belle Inn and the Rugby Tavern.  Both were tidy but we had a preference for how well the lager was kept in the Olde Blue Belle Inn.  Lots of local pictures with this hidden gem!  Both pubs were busy.

I do intend to visit Hull this year, as I have not been for a few years now. Interesting to see what the Blue Belle Inn & Rugby Tavern are like after a few years away. Yes both pubs are normally busy

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A Customers Viewpoint / Re: SWEARING
« on: May 11 - 2017 »
I have been in several SS pubs since the ban, and the language seems to have got worse since the notices have been displayed in the pubs. Some managers haven't even bothered to put the signs up,or ignoring it,even worse for the managers.

I have heard this week that the managers at the Brown Bear in Sheffield have been fired,anybody else heard the rumour too? Also said the pub was shut.

Colpits was also mentioned in a article in the Sun recently.

The Moorhouse,Duncan & Elliott in Leeds are sometimes bad for language.

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They have some lovely pubs.
Advice
Don't sell the house
Don't go off on a tangent - do exactly as instructed
Work hard
Work harder
Pay isn't fantastic
Watch your stocks like a hawk
Work a even harder

True, there are plenty of horror stories, some true perhaps, some exaggerated. It's a management position, salaried, so don't go thinking about hours and pay, it will do your head in.
If you still fancy it and there are plenty out there that have been employed for years don't mention the experience.
Good luck

Totally agree with ECBD. I know several managers that have worked for SS for many years. True to say that I know lots of former managers that are still bitter about their treatment by the brewery. Again these managers were on the old contracts and so could fight their cases.

Still seems to be a lot of pubs up for grabs though.

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General Discussion / Re: Taddy Bridge
« on: Mar 20 - 2017 »
Saw a photo on the NY Council website and was shocked :HJH to see that the bridge, was flooded one again.Or Looks like a high level to me,any member(s) know what is happening.

Sorry lost the photo.  :WF


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Agree with the points already cover.

I went into a few SS pubs today and the prices had gone up for some products interesting enough.

OBB 2.00
Sovereign 2.04
Taddy 2.30
Double Four 2.08

Wine 175ml 3.78,sorry didn't bother with the others.

Any other SS pubs prices gone up this week ? My local one probably hasn't as it had a stock take recently/


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There is not really much more to know other than what you can find out for yourself through this site or press releases.
The man himself has no influence on the people in Tadcaster whatsoever, land or law. People do however obsess over him because of his eccentric nature and strange actions relating to his small brewery and pub network.
The majority of tadcaster people have jobs / careers outside of Tadcaster - (Leeds - York ect) and have no affiliation or connection to the brerwery other than a chance visit to a sams pub.
I think people find his character fascinating and some enjoy spinning yarns about him and the brewery. He means the same as joe blogs to me, I couldn't care less.

The guys is not god, nor does he own Tadcaster like some people make out. He owns a few shops, pubs and some agricultural land.

How very true.

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Yesterday was the first time I'd been near the Angel for at least 2 weeks and found that it was closed.  The outside sign was lit so the electricity can't have been disconnected. I'm just wondering if anyone knows anything.

Sorry not been to London recently so can't tell you.Maybe another member(s) could answer your question.  :WF

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Any member(s) know if this pub is reopening again ? As it was shut when I was in Tadcaster the other day.

Judging by the number vacancies still,is it a shortage of managers or reliefs at the moment. I know there are quite a few pubs either shut or having a refurbishment.

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A Customers Viewpoint / Re: Crisps
« on: Feb 21 - 2017 »
A manager said that he knew where they were from in this thread going back to 2015 where you seemed to think the same then! :)

http://samsmiths.info/forum/index.php/topic,10228.msg56834.html#msg56834

You have a good memory.  Yes I did, However I then went off on the Benson's theory! But I know am back to the Kolak idea.....
It seems very quiet round here these days?

Not that good a memory on this occasion, just found it as I was Googling.  It is very quiet - maybe not much in the way of ructions from HS or general brewery news.

Probably true,but I am sure there is news around the empire,but no member(s) have been to that particular pub.