Are there a number of Sam's with no gaming machines then? all the ones I've been in have them. Just the one though - not like some of the greedy buggers who go for three or even four, a move to be resisted, in my opinion. Gaming machines should be no more than an adjunct to a pub's normal activities, to me. When you get to that number of machines, the income is seen as a substantial and important part of the income stream, and as such means you are semi operating a gaming establishment, not a pub. But all weak - willed, uninformed governments will do nothing, as they grab the tax revenue.